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		<title>Comment on One-third of UK homes still without internet access by woodsy</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolwireless.net/news/?p=438#comment-87102</link>
		<dc:creator>woodsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen

I'd have thought bread was a more basic requirement than cake. :-)

As regards technology as the servant, I couldn't agree more. Moreover, it &lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;must and should not&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt; create more problems than it solves. And finally, if you do enough walking anyway, do you really need the gym?

Woodsy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have thought bread was a more basic requirement than cake. <img src='http://www.bristolwireless.net/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As regards technology as the servant, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Moreover, it <b><em>must and should not</em></b> create more problems than it solves. And finally, if you do enough walking anyway, do you really need the gym?</p>
<p>Woodsy</p>
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		<title>Comment on One-third of UK homes still without internet access by Allen C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By all means improve the lot of the "deprived" - but give them cake before you give them the icing.

I do not consider myself to be a luddite, but I do insist on technology being the servant and not the master. If it gets in the way of the real-world problem in hand then I won't use it.  (Why DRIVE to the gymnasium - why not walk?) 

Allen C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By all means improve the lot of the &#8220;deprived&#8221; - but give them cake before you give them the icing.</p>
<p>I do not consider myself to be a luddite, but I do insist on technology being the servant and not the master. If it gets in the way of the real-world problem in hand then I won&#8217;t use it.  (Why DRIVE to the gymnasium - why not walk?) </p>
<p>Allen C</p>
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		<title>Comment on One-third of UK homes still without internet access by woodsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>woodsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment Allen. I think your points are very well made. There will always be a hard core of 'Luddites' resistant to various technologies (I for instance have not had a TV for over 15 years).

In terms of the total population of the world, the internet is still a luxury for the developed nations and the elites of the less developed.

As regards politicians, sewers may not be 'sexy' enough for them, although most deserve it as their natural habitat. ;-)

Woodsy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Allen. I think your points are very well made. There will always be a hard core of &#8216;Luddites&#8217; resistant to various technologies (I for instance have not had a TV for over 15 years).</p>
<p>In terms of the total population of the world, the internet is still a luxury for the developed nations and the elites of the less developed.</p>
<p>As regards politicians, sewers may not be &#8217;sexy&#8217; enough for them, although most deserve it as their natural habitat. <img src='http://www.bristolwireless.net/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Woodsy</p>
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		<title>Comment on One-third of UK homes still without internet access by Allen C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice the original article carefully does not mention the proportion of households which *don't want* Internet.  I do not own either a boat or a caravan, because I don't want them - and I don't feel remotely deprived.

Don't forget that there are some (more remote) households which don't yet have mains water, electricity, gas, or sewage - things people would consider a basic amenity - more important, even, than owning a TV, or the Internet.

Digging sewers is not "sexy" enough for the politicians to bother with - they are too bedazzled with the flashy new technology. They ought to be more concerned with the basic amenities of life.   People die from a lack of food and shelter - they don't die from a lack of the Internet.  

It's time we got our priorities right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice the original article carefully does not mention the proportion of households which *don&#8217;t want* Internet.  I do not own either a boat or a caravan, because I don&#8217;t want them - and I don&#8217;t feel remotely deprived.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that there are some (more remote) households which don&#8217;t yet have mains water, electricity, gas, or sewage - things people would consider a basic amenity - more important, even, than owning a TV, or the Internet.</p>
<p>Digging sewers is not &#8220;sexy&#8221; enough for the politicians to bother with - they are too bedazzled with the flashy new technology. They ought to be more concerned with the basic amenities of life.   People die from a lack of food and shelter - they don&#8217;t die from a lack of the Internet.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time we got our priorities right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Watch a 25-year old GNU, Fry on camera! by woodsy</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolwireless.net/news/?p=441#comment-86887</link>
		<dc:creator>woodsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

It's not just the video we like: the software rocks too! :-D

I wonder if you saw the following from &lt;a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/02/gnu_at_25/" rel="nofollow"&gt;El Reg's 25th anniversary GNU piece&lt;/a&gt;, which I thought particularly relevant:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The words "freedom" and "community" have been grabbed by policy wonks, bureaucrats, politicians and marketeers. Taking the metaphor, and throwing away the principles, it's become a way of manufacturing consensus: used in rhetoric designed to justify plantation-style labour, cultural misanthropy and economic Feudalism, all promising to hurl us back to a pre-Enlightenment era. You'll now see Open Source freely used as a cynical marketing tactic, and note that "community development" of software is almost entirely funded by one or two huge corporations (Google and IBM).

But you can't blame GNU for the bad metaphorical logic used by the political class, or similar opportunists.

Stallman looks more justified than ever in rejecting utilitarian arguments for &lt;a href="http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;"the four freedoms"&lt;/a&gt;. Software is simply a tool, and he's helped keep it open.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just the video we like: the software rocks too! <img src='http://www.bristolwireless.net/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I wonder if you saw the following from <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/02/gnu_at_25/" rel="nofollow">El Reg&#8217;s 25th anniversary GNU piece</a>, which I thought particularly relevant:</p>
<blockquote><p>The words &#8220;freedom&#8221; and &#8220;community&#8221; have been grabbed by policy wonks, bureaucrats, politicians and marketeers. Taking the metaphor, and throwing away the principles, it&#8217;s become a way of manufacturing consensus: used in rhetoric designed to justify plantation-style labour, cultural misanthropy and economic Feudalism, all promising to hurl us back to a pre-Enlightenment era. You&#8217;ll now see Open Source freely used as a cynical marketing tactic, and note that &#8220;community development&#8221; of software is almost entirely funded by one or two huge corporations (Google and IBM).</p>
<p>But you can&#8217;t blame GNU for the bad metaphorical logic used by the political class, or similar opportunists.</p>
<p>Stallman looks more justified than ever in rejecting utilitarian arguments for <a href="http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the four freedoms&#8221;</a>. Software is simply a tool, and he&#8217;s helped keep it open.
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		<title>Comment on Watch a 25-year old GNU, Fry on camera! by Matt Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post. 

Glad you liked the video!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post. </p>
<p>Glad you liked the video!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pre-installed Linux growing strongly in UK by rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than one in every three new PCs is downgraded from &lt;a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&#38;articleId=9112885" rel="nofollow"&gt;Windows Vista to the older Windows XP &lt;/a&gt; and the other two thirds are &lt;a href="http://www.bristolwireless.net/wiki/index.php/ComputersForSale" rel="nofollow"&gt;upgraded to Linux&lt;/a&gt; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than one in every three new PCs is downgraded from <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;articleId=9112885" rel="nofollow">Windows Vista to the older Windows XP </a> and the other two thirds are <a href="http://www.bristolwireless.net/wiki/index.php/ComputersForSale" rel="nofollow">upgraded to Linux</a> <img src='http://www.bristolwireless.net/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Pre-installed Linux growing strongly in UK by Don't Attack Your Users &#124; Software Cooperative News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don't Attack Your Users &#124; Software Cooperative News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] operation will be exploited as far as legally possible. Hopefully, we&#8217;ll continue to see pre-installed Linux growing strongly in UK as Bristol Wireless [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] operation will be exploited as far as legally possible. Hopefully, we&#8217;ll continue to see pre-installed Linux growing strongly in UK as Bristol Wireless [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Five into two does go&#8230; virtually! by Bristol Wireless News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News from the lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bristol Wireless News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News from the lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One noticeable change is how much cooler it is in the lab now compared with previous summers: is this due to our switching over to running on vservers? (news passim) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One noticeable change is how much cooler it is in the lab now compared with previous summers: is this due to our switching over to running on vservers? (news passim) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Flying on the DC10plus by Digital Mentors &#171; watfordgap&#8217;s travels</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolwireless.net/news/?p=391#comment-79155</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Mentors &#171; watfordgap&#8217;s travels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] feeling more included in their community. (Woodsy from Bristol Wireless who was with us goes into more details about the day on his blog and some of the other EVH&#8217;s we visited). We saw the use of digital media; young people [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] feeling more included in their community. (Woodsy from Bristol Wireless who was with us goes into more details about the day on his blog and some of the other EVH&#8217;s we visited). We saw the use of digital media; young people [...]</p>
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